DD_Dinosaur
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I know shotguns have to be a certain length to be legal and with AR's under a certain length you can not use a stock. My question.... is it legal to have a 10" shotgun upper on an AR platform with a brace? Or a 7"?
10-4. Just was curious. I couldn't find anything upon my searching so figured I would ask here. Just seemed like a grey area to me Thanks budWith a brace, currently yes. Lots of people add braces to Shockwaves and the other derivatives so the same thing could apply for a shotgun AR upper. The main difference with barrel length is that an SBR is under 16 inches with a stock, but an SBS is under 18 inches with a stock.
Yea I've noticed no one sells short shotgun uppers. I was just thinking of having a barrel cut down on one but didn't want to get in any trouble for having one.Shockwave is not classified as a shotgun, it's classified as a " non-nfa item" there is an easy way to know, see if a company sells it. You might notice that no companies sell an AR12 style pistol, closest thing in a shot gun would be bullpup style shot gun. The determining factor is how was it originally sold, sold as a shockwave-legal, make you own from a shotgun- illegal.
It's all in the definition, rifle, pistol, shotgun, SBR, SBS, etc.. are all legal definitions. Same way a shockwave is not a shotgun. Why are some AR lowers marked 5.56 pistol, some 5.56, and most multi caliber? Make no mistake, cut a shotgun barrel and you have crossed the line, but hey it's all good untill Mr Alphabet gets the house, the vehicles, and everything else. Then the conversation starts with " So Mr Domestic Terrorist, tell us about everyone involved in manufacturing these things"Yea I've noticed no one sells short shotgun uppers. I was just thinking of having a barrel cut down on one but didn't want to get in any trouble for having one.
What I don't understand is if it's on the AR platform and it's perfectly legal to have a pistol version of an AR with a brace no matter the caliber why would it change when going to a shotgun caliber?
Yea I've noticed no one sells short shotgun uppers. I was just thinking of having a barrel cut down on one but didn't want to get in any trouble for having one.
What I don't understand is if it's on the AR platform and it's perfectly legal to have a pistol version of an AR with a brace no matter the caliber why would it change when going to a shotgun caliber?
Seems like it it was kosher somebody would be making AR type 12 gauge pistols, there are 20 plus brands of AR style 18 inch or longer 12 gauge shotguns most of them using the AR12 name or some variation of it. That would seem to indicate the existence of an AR style lower for 12 gauge. Or maybe I'm confused, but I have seen bullpup 12 gauges with shorter than 18, but they are listed as NFA items (SBS)real reason nobody makes an AR pistol shotgun is because you'd have to design a unique lower to accommodate anything more than .410 which would put it in a really niche market, not because a manufacturer making an AR pistol styled shotgun would be magically illegal